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  What is this about Marking?

  by Missie Eff in

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  i have a good freind here with me this evening.

  (celtic, if you're around you know her - it's liane).

  there is something that has always puzzled both of us.

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  Wounded Heart

  hi missie eff,

  this definitely happens other places. when i was very young (im 34 now), i remember well, the elders saying from the platform so and so was "marked" and as someone mentioned, it was the equivalent to being DFd . when i was about 18-19, one day "A" and i were discussing "M" who was a newer friend of ours. "A" said "no, i dont want to invite her cause shes marked". i asked why "A" hadnt bothered to tell me (guess i missed that talk or daydreamed thru it). "A's" response was that "we arent supposed to talk about it". it seems that "M" was involved and going to marry a "worldly" (in every sense of the word) guy and thus had been marked. this was when it was up to each individual person to mark others as they saw fit. i never could figure out who was "in trouble", UNLESS i saw them headed into the "fishbowl" (library).

  ISP: i wonder if marking is different because the person is continuing with their plan of "wrongdoing". cause those that were marked (that i knew of) continued to do what they wanted to do (such as above mentioned "M" getting married to the "worldly" guy). were as being reproved is when you are repentant of something but they still have to "smack" ya in public. does this make sense to anyone but me? LOL.

  whatever the elders did publically (negatively) was purely wrong. WWJD? he certainly would not have treated ones who erred in the manner that elders/borg does these days.

  Kat
  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love

  "When in doubt, do the loving thing." ~ 8yr old "Pirate"
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  2/3 of all JW's are women and what it implies

  by Mindchild in

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  a few weeks back, kinsman posted a link about a recent survey of religion in america which showed that 68% of all jehovah's witnesses were female, which is the highest ratio of women to men in any religion in the usa.. i believe the reason for this unbalance in adherents in favor of women comes down to two fundamental reasons.

  the first is shunning and the second is the appeal of the "family type atmosphere" that the witnesses pretend to offer.. we all know the power of shunning keeps a lot of people trapped inside the collective, and just due to the fact that women are enculturated more with having emotional bonds with others, makes it a bit tougher to leave family and friends behind.

  this doesn't mean that men don't suffer emotionally, but the general trend is more for men to suppress their feelings and damn the emotional torpedoes and go full speed ahead out of the bad dream.. this suggests to me, that if there is a major modification of the shunning policy, the largest exodus will be in the female ranks.

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  Wounded Heart

  i wonder if it has to do with the "package" they sell. when i was in it seemed alot of the new ones coming into our cong were either single moms or women with abuse history, for 2 examples. single moms might feel guilty to take away any "father" figure or displine type set up by leaving the borg. and people with history of abuse in there background often have trouble breaking free from abusive relationships such as the abusive relationship within the congregation/organization.

  just my experience. it certainly seemed that alot of our "new ones" coming into the organization were like those i mention above. i mean no offence to anyone.

  Kat
  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love

  "When in doubt, do the loving thing." ~ 8yr old "Pirate"
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  lucid dreams

  by msil in

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  i dream about you, even though i am awake.

  i feel your love, theres just no mistake.... dwelling and dreaming bout all we discussed.

  and how our souls embraced in the arms of our trust.

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  Wounded Heart

  love this! great work msil! thank you for sharing of yourself n your work.
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  Jon passed away this morning

  by jonjonsimons in

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  my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.

  jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.

  as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.

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  Wounded Heart

  (((((Kevin)))))

  im so sorry about jon. i enjoyed reading his posts and am sad i never got to meet him and chat with him. this saddens me so much. sitting here with tears streaming down my face, wishing i could have known jon more and let him no how much i enjoyed his thoughts and all that he shared. he will be greatly missed.

  i hope that you will visit here and post when you are able. there are so many here who love you and jon.

  please take care of yourself.

  love,

  Kat

  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love

  "When in doubt, do the loving thing." ~ 8yr old "Pirate"
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  "Imagine" all the inappropriate songs...

  by Tatiana in

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  this is a complete list of "lyrically inappropriate" songs being banned from several us radio stations in the wake of the attacks.. "it's very dangerous," says nina crowley, director of massmic, a music free-speech organization.

  "i understand they're pulling certain violent songs.

  but you put out a list of songs like this, and the next thing you know someone's pulling the albums off the shelves in wal-mart.".

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  April - thank you for printing the list. i just read it in todays local paper and was going to type it all in tonight for all to see...you sure did save me alot of trouble.

  about britney & justin singing on micheal js project--todays paper also had a statement from their managers that they are not participating in micheals project.

  i too have heard many of the songs on the list being played on the radio.

  good to see such healthy responses to this "banned song list"

  Kat

  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love

  "When in doubt, do the loving thing." ~ 8yr old "Pirate"
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  I'm A Better Parent Than Any JW.

  by Englishman in

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  i was sat watching tv tonight, her ladyship was dozing after a hard day, george the cat was purring and number 3 son had fallen asleep.. number 2 son was talking on the phone to his girlfriend, number 1 was out selling finance to prospective home-buyers.. know what?

  these sons of mine know that i am always on their side, no matter what they do.

  i can't think of anything that they could do to stop me loving them.

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  Wounded Heart

  had to check out satan sites 4 demonic humans who where cast out of the truth ha ha bitter souls the wts will never fall its backed by jehovah u can wish all u want like your father does but alas stupid ones u open your eyes and the truth sets in jehovahs people are the truth go join your pagan religions and watch uyour self choke on blood NYc is just another last day happening yous sorry lives are running shorter the worst US deaths ever the time is neigh stupid ones hope u hada nice life!

  actually, most here decided to leave on their own accord and are very happy with their decision...i know I am.

  Kat

  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love

  8yr old "Pirate" has said it beautifully: "When in doubt, do the loving thing."
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  Well, I'm stuck in my office in Manhattan for now

  by Michael3000 in

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  hi, folks.

  i know nytelecom works nearby (across the river?

  ), but i can tell you all that today has been (and will continue to be for a loooong time) the single most bizarre, surreal event i have witnessed.. i work in an office building at 26 broadway in manhattan, about 10 blocks from the world trade towers.

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  {{{{{{Michael}}}}}}

  you are such a strong and kind-hearted person! to volunteer to go back to the scene of such an emotionally charged (with sorrow) area...it just blows me away that you are finding the strength to be able to offer your support in the Search & Rescue area! if its ok, i will be keeping you in my prayers and send strength to help you in your efforts. also sending hopes and wishes that you are able to be sucessful in finding someone alive. please let us know how it all goes...you will be able to offer a unique viewpoint after your volunteer work. i for one would very much appreciate anything you are able to post. having said that, i totally understand if it is too overwhelming to post about. either way please know we are behind you 100%. sending love and caring to you and your family and friends and coworkers. may you all find healing as you help others.

  Kat

  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love

  8yr old "Pirate" has said it beautifully: "When in doubt, do the loving thing."
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  Need new drink!!!

  by tattoogrl333 in

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  ok this has nothing to do with being a jw or anything of that nature but it is important to me and i need some help:.

  here goes i have been drinking rum and coke (bacardi) since i can remember and finally realized that maybe it is contributing to my severly harsh hangovers.

  so i went on a quest in search of a new drink.

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  Wounded Heart

  hey tatoogirl!

  loving all the responses.

  have you tried sombreros? Khalua and 1/2 & 1/2 over crushed ice. i tend to make mine strong. one is enough for a buzz for me. lol one wine cooler is enough some days too :o) im on meds so i dont drink often. however i do like to indulge every so often. i like Zima with fresh lime or lemon juice. (i know i know--Zima???) i also like to add fresh lemon or lime juice to my beer--weird i know but i like it lots.

  looking forward to hearing which one you end up liking. gonna try a few of these myself.

  enjoy!
  Kat

  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love
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  get a life -- 10 facts

  by joelbear in

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  i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.

  1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.

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  Wounded Heart

  ive enjoyed reading this thread--ive gotten to know people here better. thank you joelbear! you are indeed a good person n very smart! ok hold onto your hats people....here it is:

  1. 34, female, 1 younger brother (never baptised), 1 father (inactive jw who still goes on sundays), lost mom to cancer (jw). my biggest disappointment in my life: i cannot bare children. ive always wanted to go thru being pregnant and feel how it is to have life growing inside you. but i cannot. this hurts deeply. i still would like to be a mom tho.

  2. raised in jwdom since age 4. baptised at 19. stopped going to meetings 3/4yrs ago. just in past 4-6mos am i now realizing how jwdom is a cult. because of this board and a recent post on "rebaptism" i have gained a new freedom: the realization that my baptism was/is invalid! what a free feeling!!!!! thank you!!! now if i could just give up the fear i live with regarding jws. also: i feel like im just now waking up and seeing myself for the 1st time in all these years. i find it hard to define who i am without the jwdom connection. but i am learning.

  3. just this past week i told my brother that if it were to come to it then they should give me blood. this is a BIGGIE. i dont know what there is in store for people/civilization. like someone else said...if God choses me fine. if not, then he isnt someone i wish to serve anyway. course im also pissed that hes let things get this bad with wts molesters n all.

  4. im a survivor (sexual, emotional, mental, physical abuse). as a result of abuse i am also DID/MPD. im PROUD to be DID/MPD! i am creative and smart--these traits helped me create the DID alters for survival. it was the only way to survive. and survive i did. my abuse is family/friends of family oriented.

  5. im single, searching for my soulmate. but just now starting the search. because of jw upbringing i never dated. ive NEVER been on a date. ive NEVER kissed anyone. this bothers me alot. i just recently answered a personal ad...do you know how WEIRD it sounds to tell someone you are a 34, never dated or kissed virgin? it makes for funny looks. one thing tho: i am soooo grateful that i never married a jw!!! SOOO GRATEFUL!!!! i would be very unhappy and prob still a jw.

  6. i love to be naked. it is my preferred state when alone in the house. it is such a free feeling. :o) ive slept naked since seeing the episode of "Eight is Enough" when Nicholas burns down the house (by accident) and it took Nancy a longer time to get out of the house. her reason: she had to stop to put clothes on. ever since then (i was about 16) i have slept naked.

  7. i brush my teeth in the shower....much more fun.

  8. things gained thru my new freedom:
  A. my brother-i am no longer the "judging jw" that put a strain on our friendship. we are now best friends.
  B. a different best friend of mine is a lesbian. that would never have happend if i was still a "judging jw".
  C. I LOVE CHRISTMAS!!!! (this will be my 3rd). I LOVE BIRTHDAYS!!!!!! im finally enjoying life!
  D. i enjoy cussing (this brings delight to my inside kids--they love it).
  E. i can finally enjoy a dirty joke with out feeling guilty. LOL

  9. i have a great, albeit strange, sense of humor. i love card and board games; i kick ass at scrabble!; puzzles; word puzzles; country music; all kinds of music cept rap, heavy metal and opera; i love the theater; reading (HARRY POTTER RULES!!!! and all sorts of books); i love my computer; watching tv (favs are ER, CSI, Judging Amy, Dateline, 20/20, among others); i love romantic, scary, comedy, drama movies; i love cats; want a golden retreiver someday; i LOVE THE OCEAN!!!!; i love my family and friends; the color purple; i collect keychains (almost 300 now).

  10. i still have nightmares in which im surrounded by jws. normally in a convention setting. i feel very unsafe except for the fact that i am always with a "worldly" friend from high school. this worldly friend is what saves me from all those jws cutting me down n "eating" me alive--they wont come near me because of the worldly friend im with. this is a regular nightmare--as many as 3/4 times a week. very involved. the worse jw is sister elders wife who (in real life) always wants to know if im healed yet and when is she going to see me at meetings again.

  11. A. i try my darndest to be a good person. im caring, kind, funny, loving, huggy, creative, loyal, smart, (not in any particular order) person who wishes she could save her others from pain.
  11. B. all interested men can email me at email above......;o) you must have the 3 H's: Humor, Humility, and HUGABILITY!

  thanks for the oppotunity to share with you all. you can all wake up now. LOL. thanks for sharing of yourselves!

  Kat

  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love
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  My stepfather died tonight

  by Mulan in

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  i have just finished making phone calls informing the family of the death of my stepfather.

  i was an adult when he married my mother, but i loved him very much.

  he was a wonderful man.. although he was a faithful jw, for his entire life (he was born to it) he was a really good man, and a true christian, i believe.

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  im so sorry to hear this Marylin. im glad you were blessed with him in your life.

  just a thought: if the memorial time was placed in the newspaper and your mom's address then perhaps you could stay at her house during the memorial. often times theives like to take advantage of this time and try to break in and clean the house out. my mother often offered to stay at people's houses to ward off theives during funerals.

  also: if hearing the memorial is something you would like to do, perhaps you can either phone in and listen or have someone get a tape of it. i was still regular at meetings when mom died. we had someone tape the memorial for our benefit. not for what the WTS offers in comfort/scriptually but for how kindly she was spoken of.

  just some thoughts. please know you and your family are in my thoughts. may you find peace and comfort in the fond memories you have of your stepdad.

  Kat

  Wounded Heart

  Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love